I should upgrade my gpu and psu? (2024)

So I am planing to get a better gpu, mainly for pcvr gaming and some games at 1080p 165hz. I have a budget of 650€ if possible I migth be able to increase my budget to 750€ in a few months. For now I am looking to remplace my rtx 2060s with an rx 7900 gre, that costs 600€. It's a good upgrade to my system?

And my psu, that is a gamemax 850w modular rgb one that has been working without any problems for about 4 years for now it will be fine if I upgrade the gpu? Or I should look intro getting a better psu from a good brand too?

For now my psu was able to handle an ryzen 3700x, an rtx 2060s and a ati 5850 hd At full load at the same time without problems.

Also I will be removing the old ati gpu from the system as I stopped doing gpu passtruth as I did some gaming on a windows wm was a bad idea to try and it was getting worse perfromance than doing dual bootting.

Hamburguesa said:

7900 gre

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Your 3700x will be a bottleneck, especially @ 1080p.

You need a better CPU as well, get a 5800x3d.

Hamburguesa said:

that is a gamemax 850w modular rgb one that has been working without any problems for about 4 years for now

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Yeah, sounds like you should be good to go. Wiz has max game watts @ 265w and spikes up to 354w.

P4-630 said:

Your 3700x will be a bottleneck, especially @ 1080p.

You need a better CPU as well, get a 5800x3d.

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He should still get more frames getting a 7900 gre over a 5800x3d. Gre first then he can work at his cpu

P4-630 said:

Your 3700x will be a bottleneck, especially @ 1080p.

You need a better CPU as well, get a 5800x3d.

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Yeah, I was aware of that but I think I should wait more for upgrading the cpu as the 5800x3d is for about 300€ in my country. I think i should wait if the price gets a little bit lower as I also will be needing a good cooler if I don't undervolt the x3d cpu to make it work with the stock cooler that the 3700x has.

Outback Bronze said:

Gre first then he can work at his cpu

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I was planing to that.

Outback Bronze said:

Yeah, sounds like you should be good to go. Wiz has max game watts @ 265w and spikes up to 354w.

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Thank you for comfirming that my psu should be good, but wasn't gamemax in some controversy with some power supplys quality or something like that?

Hamburguesa said:

650€ ... 750€

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I'd get a 4070 Ti or a 4070 Super for that.

If you want AMD, wait for RDNA4. They promised better pricing, more efficient power usage and improved ray tracing performance. RDNA4 will become available Q1/Q2 2025.

P4-630 said:

You need a better CPU as well, get a 5800x3d.

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For sure. The 5700X3D is also a great choice.

To OP: Remember, GPU first then CPU.

Hamburguesa said:

5800x3d is for about 300€

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The 5700X3D performs comparable to a 5800X3D so check the price on that.

Hamburguesa said:

I was planing to that.

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Great.

Keullo-e said:

7900 GRE ... I would've got one as well but I got a good deal of my current 3080 so I got this instead.

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A fine choice and it has 4GB more VRAM than the ones I mentioned.

Sunny and 75 said:

The 5700X3D performs comparable to a 5800X3D so check the price on that.

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I don't know why 5700X3D v 5800X3D sounds like such a difficult decision but I'm sure it has everything to do with maxxing out the loadout for AM4.
7000 series still appears to be on top and that's very likely not going away until the release of certain 9000X3D series chips.
5000X3D series is effectively the FPS capstone for AM4 and this literally means no more upgrade path, just switching out to other chips like 5900XT/5950X to specialize specific jobs.

I don't see any point in buying a giganto gaming purposed GPU and then limiting the system a few hundred MHz shy of the peak option CPU.
Like at this point I would be looking to squeeze every last frame before jumping ship. Especially if this AM4 socket has become the main comfort.
Doeesn't help that the 5600X3D looks like a better option than 5700X3D but good luck finding one in any market.
I'm also of the opinion that we need more PCI-E lanes before I'm tempted to build again. AM5 isn't interesting but that Dragon Range chip ships with 28 g5 lanes and it's for mobile.
Imagine 8 lanes split for dual NVMe (RAID), 16 lanes to GPU and 4 lanes to chipset/networking. Would be the ideal desktop before dropping $$$$ on a Pro-WS system.

DaemonForce said:

I don't know why 5700X3D v 5800X3D sounds like such a difficult decision but I'm sure it has everything to do with maxxing out the loadout for AM4.
7000 series still appears to be on top and that's very likely not going away until the release of certain 9000X3D series chips.
5000X3D series is effectively the FPS capstone for AM4 and this literally means no more upgrade path, just switching out to other chips like 5900XT/5950X to specialize specific jobs.

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I don't see any point in buying a giganto gaming purposed GPU and then limiting the system a few hundred MHz shy of the peak option CPU.
Like at this point I would be looking to squeeze every last frame before jumping ship. Especially if this AM4 socket has become the main comfort.
Doeesn't help that the 5600X3D looks like a better option than 5700X3D but good luck finding one in any market.
I'm also of the opinion that we need more PCI-E lanes before I'm tempted to build again. AM5 isn't interesting but that Dragon Range chip ships with 28 g5 lanes and it's for mobile.
Imagine 8 lanes split for dual NVMe (RAID), 16 lanes to GPU and 4 lanes to chipset/networking. Would be the ideal desktop before dropping $$$$ on a Pro-WS system.

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5700X3D is almost as fast. https://www.techspot.com/review/2801-amd-ryzen-5700x3d/

DaemonForce said:

5700X3D v 5800X3D

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There is no tangible difference between the two.

If you're already on AM4, the 5800X3D is the highest you can go in terms of gaming performance but when the price seems a bit too high then the 5700X3D becomes the obvious choice and like I said, you will not notice the difference.

DaemonForce said:

Doeesn't help that the 5600X3D looks like a better option than 5700X3D but good luck finding one in any market.

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For sure.

They won't make the same mistake they did with the 5600X3D.

I'm just glad they made the 5700X3D which doesn't break the bank and it's available for purchase.

Keullo-e said:

5700X3D is almost as fast.

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There's the GN review as well.

So finally I decided on my final budget which will be 750€ Looking into more GPU choices that are interesting I found

AMD RX 6950 xt at 490€
Sapphire Pulse RX 7900 GRE at 580€
Powercolor Hellhound 7900 XT at 750€
Inno3d RTX 4070 Super at 620€

I don't know why Coolmod has the better prices in my country, but probably gonna get the GPU from there. The 6950 xt seems a good deal and it's brand new I could get the Ryzen 7 5700x3d also if I chose that card but I think I might put my PSU near its limits if I choose that GPU as it consumes around 340W if I am not mistaken. Looking into the 7900 xt it's the best GPU that I can get with the budget and it consumes even less than the 6950xt. I tried also to find a 4070 ti or 4070 ti super but they are at 850€-900€. What I should choose?

Hamburguesa said:

So finally I decided on my final budget which will be 750€ Looking into more GPU choices that are interesting I found

AMD RX 6950 xt at 490€
Sapphire Pulse RX 7900 GRE at 580€
Powercolor Hellhound 7900 XT at 750€
Inno3d RTX 4070 Super at 620€

I don't know why Coolmod has the better prices in my country, but probably gonna get the GPU from there. The 6950 xt seems a good deal and it's brand new I could get the Ryzen 7 5700x3d also if I chose that card but I think I might put my PSU near its limits if I choose that GPU as it consumes around 340W if I am not mistaken. Looking into the 7900 xt it's the best GPU that I can get with the budget and it consumes even less than the 6950xt. I tried also to find a 4070 ti or 4070 ti super but they are at 850€-900€. What I should choose?

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4070S, set the rest aside for saving up towards an X3D.

You're playing at 1080p so the extra VRAM of the AMD cards isn't worth the worse power efficiency, lack of DLSS/DLAA, worse RT, and overall weaker software experience.

RDNA 3 7900XT has much higher transient power spikes than a 4070S too.

250 W vs 400 W

You could also consider getting something better than AMD's stock cooler for your CPU with part of the leftover budget.

I normally stagger out about 2 GPU's in between every 1 CPU and/or memory upgrade personally. A memory upgrade sometimes works as a temporary bandage too on a aging CPU though often hard to recommend generally speaking. Memory is tricky though it's faced too much outrageous price gouging on binned kits.

In terms of PSU I like to have a good 100w-200w of cushion room more than I would generally expect to use as a cushion buffer in case I need or want it later and try to avoid dubious PSU manufacturers stick to brands more known for good PSU quality it's not a part you want to skimp on quality. I went with a Corsair on newest PSU and Seasonic PSU prior. I think Seasonic has the better reputation or did since they've been around a long while, but Corsair has built up a solid enough reputation. Silverstone had a good reputation as well.

I'm pleasantly surprised with the Corsair actually had power spike last winter where lights dimmed and flickered off for a moment, but the PC stayed on and power up which seems like a good sign on quality between the PSU and MB and capacitors I think. If it were a really bad storm I'd probably turn the PC off maybe how loud is it , but it was just snow and ice. This storm is loud n scary the cat hid under the coach again think I'll turn my PC off til it simmers down. My was cat was scared of thunder it knows not to test the might of Zeus or Thor a wise wussy cat indeed.

On the subject if your priority is gaming unless it creates a CPU bottleneck greater than like 25% roughly just go with a GPU in general unless you really care about specific games that CPU bottleneck heavily there isn't a lot of reason not to. At least in my opinion. I'm somewhat conflicted saying that with today's GPU pricing though if you're leaning towards a the mid range and high end GPU market. GPU pricing for that segment has really gone off the rails.

The 7900GRE or 4070 super would be my choice out of those the 6950XT while decently fast has too many downsides vs the GRE to be worth saving a Benjamin but only you can decide what your money is worth or not worth.

Between those 2 it comes down to if you prefer efficiency, worlds better AI upscaling especially at 1080p/1440p, and decently better RT performance or having 4GB more vram.

The RT performance of single or double effects based games aren't too bad on the 7900GRE though. Also I think with the latest driver updates you can get 7900XT like performance if you don't care about power consumption that is.

Beyond that it just comes down to the games you enjoy.

I personally think both cards are too weak for serious RT performance for it to be a factor but that's just me although at 1080p the 4070 holds up decently in it.

Also a big factor should be how comfortable you are in each companies ecosystem if you are very use to modern GeForce gpu's you may not like AMDs ecosystem and vice versa. If you're OK with either it's really a toss up for 1080p they'll both likely perform well for a while. We are late in the generation though so keep in mind the base architecture for current generation cards has been out for 18 months already as it is but you should be ok with these midrange gpus they'll likely not be replaced for another 9-12 months.